If the turnstiles on the platform rest. Turnstiles for exiting stations. blatant violation of the constitutional rights of passengers

Controllers

On Ryazan direction controllers prefer to travel in long-distance trains (the farther the train, the more likely their presence). In electric trains up to 47 km, only about a third of electric trains go somewhere, they usually sit on Lyubertsy 1 in the last car and go to Bykovo or Ramenskoye. It is also quite possible not to meet controllers on rare flights to Faustovo, Vinogradovo. Run usually 1 wagon. Ryazan shake almost the entire route, excluding Moscow.

On the Kazan direction, controllers go on all trains with rare exceptions (they can score in the early morning and late evening). Usually one brigade sits in the last car in Lyubertsy 1, or in the first car in Korenevo. You can get off at any stop from Gzhel to Kurovskaya. Occasionally they don’t go out at Kurovskaya, but go to reverse side to Shatura. It is very easy to monitor counters, because 10-15 people run from each car. On long-distance routes (to Cherusti, mostly transit routes to Vekovka), there may be two teams going in the same direction at a distance of a half-train from each other. Run usually one carriage.

Both in the Kazan and Ryazan directions, counters almost never interfere with those who cross and do not return for them. Moreover, in the Kazan direction, which is the second in terms of "percentage of hares in the car", if counters checked the entire car before stopping, they do not go to the next one, but wait until the doors open and the vestibule is freed from defectors! Usually counters go accompanied by a passive private security company.

The Cherusti-Vekovka section, which lost direct communication with Moscow in 2013 (officially, in fact, there are two direct flights on weekends), has its own, harsh counters, from which it is difficult to escape, but possible. Pass one or two times. The number of passes is inversely proportional to the number of cars in the train (from 6 to 11).

In satellites up to Ramenskoye, sometimes there are controllers, sometimes they are not. Occasionally they can even be in almost every carriage.
In express trains "REX" to Golutvin, sometimes you have to run only once, but often counters go back and forth, sometimes they even sit in each car.
It is very difficult to travel on the Moscow-Ryazan express train without a ticket, except for short sections. Rolls toilet haiding (but not for the entire route). At the entrance to the cars there are conductors, tickets of the PDS type with an indication of the seat.
In the express train Moscow - Shatura, counters are about the level of ordinary TsPPKs, you can run, sometimes you have 2 cars each. Controller-running is hampered by a small number of stops.

Other information about the direction

rolling stock

The Ryazan direction is served by TC-7 Ramenskoye (area 47 km), Kazanskoe - by TC-26 Kurovskaya. Ordinary electric trains in both directions - ED4M 2002-2009 of release. Trains TC-26 are in good condition, TC-7 - in mediocre condition. From the number ED4M-0182, all electric trains were supplied with small folding "dushegubsky" vents. For satellites Moscow - Ramenskoye, oblique ED4M are used, for express trains Moscow - Golutvin - ED4M-0352 and 0353. Express Moscow-Shatura - ED4M-0483.

Features of directions

Directions go together from the station to the station. Lyubertsy 1. The Ryazan direction goes south, being the original main course of the Trans-Siberian. Kazan - to the north, towards Murom. It is believed that the section Moscow - Lyubertsy 1 belongs to the Ryazan direction. But some call both directions as a whole the Kazan direction.

On the sections Moscow - Ryazan and Moscow - Korenevo, the movement of trains on all main tracks is left-handed.

There are 4 main tracks on the Moscow - Ramenskoye section. Usually suburban walks 1/2s big amount stops, but some long-distance electric trains and express trains - 3/4 each. Stops are possible along 3/4 tracks: Moscow, Sorting (to Moscow), Novaya (to Moscow), Fraser (to Moscow), Perovo (to Moscow), Vykhino, Kosino, Lyubertsy 1, Factory (from Moscow), Ramenskoye (for electric trains the next one does not stop at the square 47 km).

The Ryazan direction was repaired in the middle of the 2000s on the Moscow-Ramenskoye section. All platforms, rolling stock were updated, many stations and platforms received turnstiles. On the Kazan direction, only the rolling stock has been updated. Many platforms are in poor condition, some are falling apart (73 km).

In the Ryazan direction, speeds are low on the Moscow-Ramenskoye section due to a large number nearby stops, otherwise relatively high. Some stops are skipped mainly by electric trains, following further 47 km. But not always: there are even Golutvinsky with all the stops. On the Kazan direction in the middle of the 2000s, some trains were canceled by adding stops to others, so that the vast majority of trains run with all the stops. But behind Gzhel, where the distance between stops becomes greater, speeds also increase greatly.

There are branches: Golutvin - Ozyory (RA2 runs in winter and DP1-M in summer, 30 pairs per week), Krivandino - Ryazanovka, Rybnoe - Uzunovo, Lyubertsy-2 - Dzerzhinsky and Lukhovitsy - Zaraysk (the last two are now purely cargo).

High platforms on the sections Moscow - Golutvin and Moscow - Vekovka, except for the o.p. Miltsevo, st. Jet towards Vekovka. On the section Golutvin - Ryazan and the branches of the platform are low, before / after Golutvin the assistant passes through the train, raises / lowers the aprons - provides an easy exit to the low platform, so it is not a problem to run across even along the embankment.

The Kazan direction intersects with BMO at st. Kurovskaya. Ryazan - on the square. 88 km, st. Voskresensk. The unified tariff zone for Moscow ends at Kosino station.

Turnstiles for EXIT from stations. Blatant violation of the Constitutional rights of passengers.

About the horrors that are happening in the trains themselves - figured it out. Now you know how things are there, how stupid you behaved before (if you ran yourself) and you know how to really act. Now let's see what kind of nightmare is going on at train stations. To begin with, it is worth recalling that train stations are an ordinary public place, like other similar places on the territory of the Russian Federation. They are subject to all the same laws as in other parts of Russia. And all of them internal rules should not be contrary to the laws of the entire country.

Far from the only, but the most brazen violation that occurs at the stations is the turnstiles, into which, as they believe, the passenger must, on a mandatory basis, poke a ticket if he wants to leave the station. Moreover, it does not matter at all whether a person was traveling by train. And if he was driving, then being already on the platform, he ceases to be a passenger, and is not required to keep the ticket further. And if there is no such “ticket for freedom” in your pocket, they brazenly order a person to go and buy a ticket at the box office, where they sell tickets “for exit”. In more adequate words, they brazenly force people to pay for the right to continue moving around Russia, or, in other words, a ticket for freedom. The need to attach a ticket at the entrance to the station, yes, is absolutely normal. But not out! The turnstiles themselves can actually be, but they should open automatically at the exit, without the need to poke tickets at them. And at some stations, where due to geographical feature terrain, in fact, one narrow entrance and exit to the station is possible - there should not be any turnstiles, due to violation of fire safety rules. Turnstiles interfere with a quick evacuation from the station, if anyone did not understand.

It doesn't matter who got to the station. For example, a simple life event that can happen to each of us. You are going to visit relatives for a few days. There is no hint of trouble ahead. On the way to the station, you lost some time because bad work shuttle bus. Came to the ticket office at the station. The ticket vending machine is out of order and "swallowed" a few rubles from you. Two of the three ticket offices are closed for a break. There was a huge queue at one single checkout. You somehow defended it, bought a ticket for the last money. The train still came 3 minutes earlier, which sometimes happens. And while the turnstiles passed, she left. In other words, you missed her. And another train acceptable to you on right direction- no more today. You were very upset, crumpled, and threw away the ticket. Yes, and you don’t need it anymore, because you refused to go, due to the lack of other suitable electric trains. You call and apologize to your relatives for not coming. And there is nothing left to do but return home. You want to go back from the station, but here is such an artificial barrier. You ask to open, let you out. You calmly try to explain the situation, and they point you to the cash register. You try to go out just like that, to follow someone - so the impudent guards push you back by force. They don’t even want to know about any laws, no one orders them. They need to work hard at the factories with their physical strength, to benefit the country. So no, it will be better to humiliate their fellow citizens. You don’t want to go around the paths, because you are afraid for your life. Physically, you just can’t push a few guards away, even though you have full right. Other zombified slaves dutifully poke tickets into the turnstiles. And the Internet heroes of the “electric cars” go around the tracks in a crowd, risking their lives. But it is they who would have had the strength to push back and put in place the impudent guards, who take it upon themselves to stand in the way of those who refuse to poke a ticket into the turnstile. And even though you die of hunger there, but until you pay for freedom, you won’t go out. And the Constitution of the Russian Federation guarantees the right to free movement within the territory of Russia.

See for yourself on the Internet, the Meshchansky Court of Moscow declared the turnstiles illegal, and ordered the railway workers to dismantle these turnstiles. But, all these railway companies twirled the decision of the Court in one place. Nobody orders them. Just in case, they changed the wording of the concept of “passenger” in the rules of travel, which were already inconsistent with the laws at that time, making a “passenger” also someone who is simply at the station or train station. Turnstiles as stood, in violation of the rights of passengers, and stand. As long as everyone is silent, and poke tickets at them, or go around along the tracks, everything will remain so.

In other words, when leaving the stations, no one is obliged to poke tickets into the turnstiles. But, no one cares about this, especially the arrogant guards. If you don’t want to poke a ticket into the turnstile and try to follow someone, you don’t violate any law, but it will be violated against you, forcibly shoved back into the station. In other words, Illegal deprivation of liberty, not related to kidnapping (127 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), will take place in your address. If you have a good physical preparation, and you are able to repulse the impudent guards, then you are just lucky. Otherwise, get ready to inflict bodily harm on you.

In the section on the question Where there are no turnstiles in the Kursk direction, asked by the author Batyanya the best answer is on the Kursk direction turnstiles:
Kalanchevskaya, railway station (only 2nd platform), Tekstilshchiki, Tsaritsyno, Podolsk. And on passing further - on Belorussky railway station, Begovaya, Fili, Kuntsevo, Setun and Dmitrovskaya (only from Moscow), Leningradskaya, Tushino.
All other turnstiles are not.
Therefore, if you do not take into account holes and detours of fences, you can go:
- to Moscow-Tovarnaya, to the bridge and 10 minutes to the metro station "Ploshchad Ilyicha/Rimskaya". The most optimal for knowledgeable hares.
- to Lyublino and walk 20-30 minutes to the Pechatniki metro station.
- to the Kursk railway station, on passing trains to Belorusskoye and Riga directions, they come to 4-5 platforms - but you need to know what kind of trains they are.
- to Rzhevskaya by passing trains and there 5 minutes to metro station "Rizhskaya"
- to Savelovskaya on passing electric trains - descent from the first carriage to the metro station "Savelovskaya".
The nuance is that on passing trains you need to know what they are, and in which car, where and when to get on - since on the stretch from Pererva to Tushino / Belorusskaya they are often controlled.

Answer from skinny[guru]
Well, usually at the entrance to big cities ordinary platforms without turnstiles, in the cities there are already all stations with horizontal bars. So maybe even 3 km will have to go.

Answer from I-beam[active]
In Uzbekistan.
In Russia, you have to pay for travel on electric trains!

Answer from Sagitta[guru]
There are no turnstiles on Bitsa, only it is far from the metro. Tsaritsyno - there are turnstiles, but when a lot of people go, they sometimes turn off.

Answer from 2 answers[guru]

Controllers

Controllers usually go on long-distance trains (the farther the train travels, the more likely it is to meet them). They rarely appear in electric trains up to the 47th kilometer, they usually sit on the last carriage on Lyubertsy and go to Bykovo or Ramenskoye.

The Kazan direction has, perhaps, the lowest passenger traffic on Mosuzl, and even the names of the stations on it are not very refined. However, electric trains travel fast (the Kurovskaya depot is considered one of the best in Mosuzla). There are relatively few controllers to Cherusti, they usually pass once from Lyubertsy to Kurovskaya.

You almost always need to run only one car. If a person ran across, then the controllers usually no longer bother him. Previously, they used to go with guards who closed the passage to the next car, but then they disappeared somewhere, apparently they realized that it was useless. They may also appear in Shatura and check up to Kurovskaya.
In satellites to Ramenskoye, controllers also sometimes visit. Occasionally they can patrol each car. In express trains to Golutvin, sometimes you have to run only once, but often controllers go back and forth, sometimes even sit in each car.
On weekends, control in express trains is much weaker.

Direction features

• The direction has 2 main branches diverging at st. Lyubertsy-1. The main branch goes towards Ryazan, the second towards Kazan (Cherusti, Vekovka). The Ryazan direction is considered the most advanced direction on Mosuzl (and in Russia in general) due to the new rolling stock of electric trains, repaired stopping platforms and a huge number of turnstiles. On the Ryazan direction, on the sections Moscow - Ryazan and Moscow - Korenevo, the only left-hand train traffic in Russia.
• In the Ryazan direction, the speeds are relatively high. There are 4 main tracks on the Moscow-Ramenskoye section, and many long-distance electric trains (Golutvin, Ryazan) go along it non-stop from Lyubertsy to Factory (25 km), and back from Ramenskoye to Lyubertsy.
• There are branches: Golutvin - Ozyory (non-electrified, RA2 runs), Krivandino - Ryazanovka, Rybnoye - Uzunovo, Lyubertsy-2 - Yanichkino and Lukhovitsy - Zaraysk (the last two are now only freight).
• High platforms on the sections Moscow - Golutvin and Moscow - Vekovka, except for the o.p. Miltsevo, st. Jet towards Vekovka. On the Golutvin - Ryazan section and the offshoots of the platform, the platforms are low, before and after Golutvin the assistant passes through the train, raises or lowers the aprons - provides an easy exit to the low platform, so it is not a problem to run across even along the embankment.
• The Kazan direction intersects with BMO at st. Kurovskaya. Ryazan - on the square. 88 km, st. Voskresensk.
• The unified tariff zone for Moscow ends at Kosino station.

Stations with turnstiles

Human rights activists have achieved the abolition of turnstiles at the exits of commuter train stations

According to the Vremya Novostei newspaper, the Moscow court of the Meshchansky District decided to satisfy the claim of the consumer rights protection organization Public Control and ordered the Russian Railways company to dismantle the turnstiles at the exit from the platforms of railway stations.

As Mikhail Anshakov, chairman of Public Control, told the newspaper, the court ordered the railroad workers not only to remove the turnstiles themselves, but also to bring information about the court decision to the attention of passengers on electric trains both through the media and through announcements on special information stands at railway stations and directly at the cash desks "on exit".

“We have been fighting this problem for several years,” Anshakov said. “According to the law, only those who travel by transport are called passengers. As soon as a person leaves the car, he is no longer a passenger. It doesn’t matter how he could get on the platform or on the territory of the station , but if he has to overcome obstacles in order to go out, this is already a violation of his constitutional right to freedom of movement.

Interesting! At the same time here http://www.praesto.ru/regions/id_60428/ such a message:

"Electronic conductors at stations will not be removed

In its August 2 issue, KP reported that the Public Control organization had won a lawsuit against the Russian railways. Social activists promised that the turnstiles installed "to exit" from the platforms commuter trains, will be removed. However, passengers should not rejoice about this.

In the decision of the Meshchansky Court of July 27, the issue of dismantling the turnstiles is not reflected and no obligations are assigned to Russian Railways in this regard, the press service told KP railway.

Simply put, the public was somewhat cunning. There was no talk of any demolition of the station turnstiles. The court considered the legitimacy of another paid service by Russian Railways. Previously, a passenger who lost (or did not buy) a ticket had to purchase a new one and pay an additional 50 rubles to pass through the electronic conductor. So this fifty dollars turned out to be illegal. Now a passenger without a ticket who arrives at the terminal station, equipped with a turnstile and an exit ticket office, only pays for his journey.

Indeed, it seems that in this year's court decision it was only about the collection of 50 rubles.
Here is inf. from the official website of the general control group:

However for the elimination of turnstiles"out" court decision it was back in 2003.

"by the decision of the Meshchansky Intermunicipal Court of the City of Moscow back in 2003, the installation of automated control by the railway travel documents when traveling to suburban traffic in terms of exercising control "on the way out" was recognized as illegal. Moreover, railway officials were obliged, in pursuance of the enacted judgment dismantle the specified turnstile lines."http://www.odintsovo.org/news/?id=896

In response to this deputy's request from 2004 why the turnstiles have not yet been dismantled, the first deputy of the Moscow road chief refers to the technical complexity of this. However, it is already 2006, and this predatory monopoly Russian Railways does not even think of complying with the court decision!

What should we do?

There is only one way out: ALWAYS leave the stations, ignoring the turnstiles- whether we have a ticket or not. Answer any questions and comments that the existence of turnstiles "on the way out" declared by the court to be illegal.