Lady of the Copper Mountain. The owner of the copper mountain

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Refers to Slavic spirits[ edit code ]

I did not find any indication in the text that this character belongs to Slavic spirits. And in the template itself at the time of deletion there was not a word about it. Anahoret 06:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

It is described (among other Slavic mountain spirits) in the article "Mountain" (Slavic Antiquities: Ethnolinguistic Dictionary). --Vladimir Lobachev 06:20, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

The Slavs have little specific mountain demons, masters of mountains. <...>In the legends of the Ural miners, the Mistress of the Copper Mountain is known.

-- Lobachev Vladimir 20:59, January 7, 2016 (UTC) Quote in full:

The Slavs have few specific mountain demons, the owners of the mountains. known mountainous- an unclean spirit that lives in mines (Russian Ural), a mountain spirit whose kingdom is inside Mount Snezhka (pol.), dwarves - gnomes guarding mountain ore and saturating the waters of mountain springs with salts (pol.), mountain mermaids zagorkini(Bulg.). In the legends of the Ural miners, the Mistress of the Copper Mountain is known, in Russian fairy tales - the Gorynya-bogatyr, who “shakes the mountains” (Dal 1:376), the Serpent Gorynych, the Goryn-serpent (Olonets.). According to the Russian versions of the legend about Alexander the Great, the wild peoples Gog and Magog are imprisoned in G. (A f. N R S No. 318).

The words "demon" and "spirit" in other sentences. The mistress of the mountain in another sentence, separated by a comma before the Serpent Gorynych. Serpent Gorynych is a demon or a spirit? - if so, bring AI to it. Further, "the peoples of Gog and Magog" are also not demons. Between them, gnomes and mermaids are also not considered demons and spirits.
In "Metals" // SDES, the Hostess is also not called a spirit/demon, she is called a "character". That's why I fixed it. Please return. --Vladis13 20:29, 8 January 2016 (UTC) The word "character" is not a feature. Therefore, the word "demon" (or "spirit") is preferred in this case. All of the listed characters in the article "Mountain" (SDES) refer to Slavic demonology, which includes "demons, spirits, people with demonic properties", therefore, the "Mistress of the copper mountain" is either a demon or a spirit. The Serpent of Gorynych is better discussed on the corresponding CO. --Vladimir Lobachev 20:51, 8 January 2016 (UTC) This is subjective oriss, contrary to AI. The mistress is here among the characters Not being demons. --Vladis13 16:02, 10 January 2016 (UTC) Here's another quote:

In Slavic mythology, there are a number of rather late-formed characters associated with mining and metal mining - spirits - owners of mines and patrons of miners: cf. Russian Mistress of Copper Mountain, ...

Let's spirit write down. --Vladimir Lobachev 23:45, 10 January 2016 (UTC) Earlier, you yourself categorically stated that the abbreviation "av." ("compare") does not mean "the same". Also in a large discussion, you asked whether this character should be considered a spirit, I answered, referring to the definition in Spirit, that the spirit, because the spirit has no form, neither you nor the other participants in that discussion disputed this. What's not to like about my AI edit where the character is specifically named "character"? --Vladis13 Literature also called "character". --Vladis13 01:33, 11 January 2016 (UTC) Not a single book called "demon". Total: no AI for "demon", and there are dozens of AI for "character" (including dictionaries and the SDES cited above). --Vladis13 20:27 April 20, 2016 (UTC) Another AI quote:

Known in the Urals female mountain spirit golden girl, malachite, in the tales of Bazhov - the mistress of the copper mountain

--Vladimir Lobachev 03:42, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Colleague, well, what kind of spirit is this character, if she has a physical form, and was played by material actresses. Who generally plays spirits in films, for example, the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of God (Gen.) - bring at least one film where an actor plays them. There are a lot of films like Poltergeist - they are all formless, at most - ghosts. And the Mistress of the Mountain is a material lively girl (see the story itself). --Vladis13 14:48, January 11, 2016 (UTC)
Firstly, in the above text by reference it is not at all obvious that the subject refers to demons. The grammatical construction given there, at least, leaves room for interpretation. Secondly, even if we admit the correctness of this point of view, WP:WEIGHT and WP:MARG. How many other AIs according to the Ural folklore and Bazhov's fairy tales, besides this encyclopedia, consider this character a demon? Thus, if this wording is left, then perhaps attributing it as the point of view of the compilers of this encyclopedia: "according to the version ..." And finally, if this term is used, then its ambiguity should be resolved. The hostess theoretically fits the definition of "the collective name of supernatural beings or spirits, occupying a lower position compared to the gods, and being both good and bad" (see Demon), but not at all under the Christian or even more ancient meaning of this word. Sincerely, Khroniker 19:50 April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Azovka is subordinate to the Mistress[ edit code ]

The Mistress is associated with the character of the girl-Azovka, which is sometimes considered a prototype of the Mistress, and sometimes is not associated with the image of the Mistress of the Mountain and is subordinate to her.

Source: P. Bazhov Ural tales

taken from the original source. Can it be AI when describing a character's image? Here, it seems to me, it is necessary to use only secondary, and even tertiary sources. The fact is that the study “On the issue of research and analysis of the Archetype of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain from the tales of P.P. Bazhov”, i.e. a secondary source, analyzing the Tales, comes to the conclusion that the Mistress and Azovka are one image. And from this phrase it turns out that Azovka is some other character with unclear functions. -- Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 20:16, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

  • 1) I doubt that the author of this study is AI, this organization does not even pull on the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, which is not AI. Judging by the study, the author received information directly by calling the ghost of this fictional character himself, while the ghost of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain answered her in the “pumping energy through the crown” chakra mode. (A ghost with a crown and chakra is absurd, even for a New Age.) Quotes:
First results for me personally

It should be noted that since the beginning of active work on this topic (winter 2012-2013), certain features of the Hostess Archetype gradually began to become actual in me. In particular, I began to pay more attention to the house, its improvement, repair, cleaning, ordering, and improving life. A new dominant began to take shape, relating to the relationship with the space in which I live. I consider this process useful for me, a significant growth area. I want to continue the study of both the Archetype as a whole and its manifestations in me and in my life.

Appendix 1. Transcription of the Archetypal conversation with the Mistress of the Copper Mountain (fragments)

VV: Hello Mistress. Let me ask you a few questions about you, about the tales of Bazhov, who describes you, about workers' folklore, which also describes you. Let me talk to you about this.

HMG: I feel the flow of energy from top to bottom. Through the crown and back. My body is shaking. Energy enters at the back of the head. Runs down the back. wiggle. There was energy in my hands too. I am the Mistress of the Copper Mountain and I am ready to answer questions.

Those. it is this source - the primary source, and not a scientific work.

2) For Bazhov, the primary source is tales, and a link is given to his study of legends - this is a secondary AI. But attributed. --Vladis13 (obs) 20:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

  • I agree that the work of V. Voronova is not the most authoritative source. But the reference to Bazhov's Tales themselves (Collected Works, 1952, part IV) is also not the best AI. The primary source is usually used only when describing the plot. And Blajes quite unambiguously writes:

    The girl Azovka and the Mistress of the Copper Mountain are one and the same.

    --Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 06:28, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
  • I repeat, the link is not given to Bazhov's tales, but to his comments.
  • You quoted Blazhes with the words of a single inhabitant. Full quote:

    P. P. Bazhov wrote that in part of the field legends, the Mistress and the girl Azovka are identified. The same is observed today: [single mention by one resident]

    That is, Blazhes does not say anything new except for a direct reference to Bazhov. In addition, the resident himself clearly defines Azovka as about “gold in Mount Azov”, and Blazhes unequivocally writes that the Mistress is copper ores and a mine in Polevskoy itself, see below. While Bazhov himself wrote more precisely:

    In addition to numerous lizards, the Mistress of the Mountain also has a brown cat under her control. ... The keeper of the "main wealth" "girl Azovka" is also in some kind of subordination. Sometimes, however, this image seems unrelated to the image of the Mistress of the Mountain, but still the touch of a miner remains here.

    In addition, Blajes himself describes them in different chapters, similarly to all other different characters. Both Bazhov and Blazhes - these characters have a different personal history, character and images. For example, Azovka has nowhere described a connection with lizards, which is obligatory for the Mistress, and she is a captive girl, cursed in grief, driving people away with groans.

    Gumeshevsky copper mine

    This mine is the center and base of Polevskoy, and Azov (mountain) is ~10 km away. Azovka guards the gold treasure of the robbers / pagans in the cave of Azov, and the Mistress manages the copper ore. --Vladis13 (obs) 00:41, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Another source about the identity of images.

The girl Azovka and the Mistress of the Copper Mountain are one and the same.

-- Lobachev Vladimir (obs.) 09:40, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

  • This extremely dubious quotation of the contradictory words of the only local resident already discussed above. --Vladis13 (obs.) 20:58, December 5, 2016 (UTC)
    • This phrase is given in an authoritative publication on this topic. The author of the publication considers it possible to use it, and the editors of Wikipedia believe that the author of the AI ​​is wrong? -- Lobachev Vladimir (obs.) 08:44, December 6, 2016 (UTC)
      • Phrases depend on the context, and yours is torn out of context. You even mistakenly thought that this is Kruglyashova’s statement, although there is only her preface, but these are the words of the only local resident quoted in Blazhes’s work, already refuted above.
        In particular (I repeat), the resident contradicts himself in the next. in words, the statement of Blazhes himself that "she is the Mistress of one Copper Mountain, that is, the Gumeshevsky copper mine", based on the results of expeditions and surveys of many residents, and that "residents know about these characters only from Bazhov's tales." All this has been discussed above.
        In addition, this resident is clinically delusional: “The girl Azovka and the Mistress of the Copper Mountain are one and the same. Where there is a lot of gold, there in Azov-mountain the girl Azovka blazes.- There is a lot of gold in the Moscow Bank, so "there" in Azov-mountain Azovka is blazing? There is no Azov Mountain in Moscow, and it is not in the Mednaya Gora mine either. Also, there is no gold in " copper mountain". And what about Azovka? The mistress of the Copper Mountain is nowhere in AI associated with gold, and nowhere is it described what appeared in the Azov Mountain, as this resident claims. - He obviously has delusions on the basis of oneiroid syndrome: “with the presence of detailed pictures of fantastic dream and pseudo-hallucinatory experiences intertwined with reality. Disorientation in time and space". This is like the source that you called “AI” above, where the author received information by calling the spirit of a fictional Mistress, with a flow of energy through the crown chakra. --Vladis13 (obs.) 02:59, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Azovka in the first words of the preamble[ edit code ]

You, that Azovka is another name for the Mistress. This directly contradicts the AI ​​recommended by you, Blazhes, and the comments of Bazhov himself. Please cite the source. --Vladis13 (obs) 08:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

  • This is a character of various legends of the Ural miners, so it is not correct to build a description only according to Bazhov. Blazhes shares the characters by name in the legends (describes separately), but nowhere does he say that these are different characters. Here is what the commentary on the Malachite Box says:

    The image of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain or Malachitnitsa in the mining folklore has various options: Mountain mother, Stone girl, Golden woman, girl Azovka, Mountain Spirit, Mountain Elder, Mountain Master- (see P. L. Ermakov, Memoirs of a miner, Sverdlgiz, 1947; L. Potapov. The cult of mountains in Altai, the magazine "Soviet Ethnography", in 2, 1946; "Songs and tales of miners", folklore of miners of the Shakhtinsky district, Rostov regional publishing house, 1940; N. Dyrenkova, Shorsky folklore, M-L. 1940; A. Misyurev, Legends and were, folklore of old miners of the South and Western Siberia: Novosibirsk, 1940)

    The image of the Copper Mountain of the hostess is collective, folklore heroes personifying the guardians of the mountain bowels served as prototypes: Stone girl, Mountain mother, Golden woman, Mountain spirit, Mountain elder, Mountain master, girl Azovka .

    Therefore, you should not reduce the image to only one mine or one city. This is a broader image, known in addition to Bazhov's fairy tales. -- Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 11:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • The second quote is clearly an anonymous rewrite of the first and not AI.
  • The second quote is from an earlier edition, so it cannot be a rewrite of the first. This is from one of the first editions of Bazhov's Tale. And in the USSR, anyone did not comment on official publications. --Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 15:24, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Source, what is this earlier edition? Even if so, so much the worse, - the infa in it was visible until further clarification by folklore scientists. +Even in it it is written that these are probable prototypes, not synonyms. --Vladis13 (obs) 15:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • “This is a broader image, known beyond Bazhov’s fairy tales.”- where are these characters known, except from the works of Bazhov?
  • You give a list of nicknames " image" (quote), that is, the class, or subject matter of the characters. Yes, these are all the spirits of treasures and precious minerals. There are many such among all peoples, even among the Mumba-Yumba tribe in the mines South Africa, though: Serpent-gorynych (“Mountain Snake” and also another character in Poloz’s tales, why not an analogy with the lizard-Mistress of the Mountain?), Koschey (which “withers over gold”), gnomes, devils, Shubin, Bazhov’s Poloz and Ognevushka- jump. It's just that similar characters have no place in the first words of the preamble, where uniquely known synonyms are written. Azovka is already written in the preamble marked "sometimes" (as in AI). --Vladis13 (obs) 14:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Your quote has been taken out of context. Fully:

The image of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain or Malachitnitsa in mining folklore has various options: Mountain mother, Stone girl, Golden woman, Azovka girl, Mountain spirit, Mountain elder, Mountain master- ... All these folklore characters are - the keepers of the riches of the mountain bowels. The image of Malachitnitsa is much more complicated for P. Bazhov.

That is, this AI separates the general class of similar images-characters (of which there are plenty all over the planet at all times), from Malachitnitsa. --Vladis13 (obs) 15:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC) The fact that an image in a work of art is more complex than in legends does not mean that this is the only source of information. -- Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 06:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC) They are named different characters and images. Are you saying that the incomprehensible character Mountain Elder standing in the same row = Mistress of the copper mountain? Do you have AI for this? --Vladis13 (obs) 15:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC) AI about Azovka and other character names are given above. --Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 06:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC) What are you talking about? --Vladis13 (obs) 16:00, October 31, 2016 (UTC) Why don't you enter on the basis of the same quote mountain elder and others in the first words of the preamble, on what is such selectivity based? --Vladis13 (obs) 19:33, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
  • @ Lobachev Vladimir : You restored the edit that contradicted the 3rd main AI on the topic: 1) the results of Blazhes' folklore expedition, 2) Bazhov's comments with an analysis of legends, 3) the comments on the publication that you yourself cited a little higher (where Mountain grandfather, Azovka and others are named as separate character-images). On what basis do you re-restore an already canceled edit, I repeat the first question of the topic: give a quote from the restored AI. --Vladis13 (obs) 16:00, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
    • These are variants of the same image. And the source is given by given title brought. -- Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 18:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
      • Again you didn't answer the question. Those. deliberately and unreasonably contradict the AI? --Vladis13 (obs) 18:35, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
  • In the encyclopedia of 1914, again, Azovka is associated only with treasures and a gold mine at the bottom of Mount Azov. Not a word about the Mistress, commanding " copper mountain"(Poleskoy mine), copper and malachite (copper carbonate). --Vladis13 (obs) 18:45, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Here's another Bazhov, analyzing the tales, clearly separates the characters:

    All the "secret power" was equally represented only by the keepers of wealth. The task for all of them - Poloz, Zmeevok, Azovka, the mountain Mistress - was the same: to prevent a person from reaching wealth.

    Bazhov. At the old mine, part VI

    . --Vladis13 (obs) 20:16, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Another serious scientific AI, Schwabauer's dissertation (supervisor Blazhes). Azovka and Mistress are classified as completely different characters. In particular, in the classification based on the classification of R. R. Gelhardt (p. 47). There are 40 pages between their descriptions. There are 247 sources in the dissertation. --Vladis13 (obs) 22:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
  • More AI about how they are just different local names for the same character

    In the auto-commentary "At the old mine" (1940) Mistress of the Copper Mountain directly correlates with the "girl-Azov".

    R. R. Gelhardt believes that the image of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain formed on the basis the image of the girl-Azovka, because his formation took place in an environment where the legends about Azovka were firmly rooted.

    --Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 10:18, November 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • That this is a possible prototype is already indicated in the article. --Vladis13 (obs) 00:12, November 2, 2016 (UTC)
    • Lipovetsky is mistaken, Bazhov did not write this. We have already quoted Bazhov's auto-comment above:

      in the subordination of the Mistress of the Mountain there is still a brown cat. ... The keeper of the "main wealth" "girl Azovka" is also in some kind of subordination. Sometimes, however, this image seems unrelated to the image of the Mistress of the Mountain, but still the touch of a miner remains here.

      --Vladis13 (obs) 01:47, November 2, 2016 (UTC)
      • By the way, Gelhardt is also an erroneous source, he did not write this. He mentions Azovka and the Mistress only twice, listing them as separate characters:

        [p. 217] Hyperbolically represented and external signs White Woman (weiBe Frau) or Mountain Girl (Bergjungfrau). Like the girl Azovka and the Mistress of the Mountain of the Ural tales, she is shown to people either in the guise of a frighteningly ugly creature, or in the form of a wonderfully beautiful woman. …
        [p. 225] Bazhov established the territory of existence of tales about the Mistress of the Copper Mountain within the narrow boundaries of one of the regions of the Urals;

        --Vladis13 (obs) 01:47, November 2, 2016 (UTC)
      • And here's Efimova, analyzing the bylichki recorded by her expedition group, writes:

        The problem of the origin of the image of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain was carefully and deeply investigated by R. R. Gelhardt. .. But then the researcher goes, in our opinion, on the wrong path, trying to connect the image of the mountain master (hostess) with a certain, single spirit of Russian mythology. Gelgardt writes about the mountain master: “His closest source was the image of the “owner of the house”, “brownie”. ... However, all these features are characteristic not only of the brownie, but also of other mythological characters of Russian folklore. Then the researcher finds features that make the mountain master related to the goblin. [Azovka is not mentioned at all on this page, although Efimova writes a lot about it in the article.] [p. 42]

        That is, Schwabauer messed up, Gelhardt considered the prototype of the Mistress of the brownie and the goblin. By the way, on page 41, Efimova also separates the characters, because these are obviously different plots. --Vladis13 (obs) 01:47, November 2, 2016 (UTC)
        • an erroneous statement by Schwabauer, since Gelhardt did not write such a thing. For 1.5 his quotes did not appear. By the way, a big request is not, especially if there is a discussion on CO without answers, otherwise it looks like a falsification. --Vladis13 (obs.) 13:26, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

The mistress of the Copper Mountain, Azovka-girl, is a common character in the legends of the workers of the former Sysert district.

-- Lobachev Vladimir (obs.) 07:15, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

  • They are not experts on the subject. The works of the specialists are given above, they clearly distinguish the characters. About Azovka is already further in the preamble. Undisputed synonyms are written in brackets. --Vladis13 (obs.) 21:28, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
    • Orlov, Alexander Sergeevich - Soviet and Russian historian, author of numerous textbooks. Candidate of Historical Sciences, Associate Professor. Pikhoya, Rudolf Germanovich - Soviet and Russian historian, chief state archivist of Russia (1992-1996). The question of the history and mythology of the Urals. Historians here on the topic. The book is quite scientific and falls under WP:AI. -- Lobachev Vladimir (obs.) 06:18, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hostess in Polevskoy[

In glory. mythology, there are a number of rather late-formed characters associated with mining and metal extraction - spirits - owners of mines and patrons of miners: cf. Russian Mistress of Copper Mountain, Serbian zemsky spirit, rudarsky king, rudarsky chuvar, silver king, <...>. The formation of golden glories, characters of this kind, took place largely under the influence of ideas about spirits - the owners of treasures, many of whose features were inherited by the mythological patrons of mines and mines.

Metals / E. E. Levkievskaya // Slavic Antiquities: Ethnolinguistic Dictionary

-- Lobachev Vladimir (obs) 08:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
  • You can see that there are two footnotes - Blazhes literally says:

    We did not meet people who would not have heard about the Mistress, but they knew her from Bazhov's tales and referred to them. … At the same time, there are storytellers who know about Malachitnitsa from an oral source. They mark her belonging to Polevsky, she is the Mistress of one Copper Mountain, that is, the Gumeshevsky copper mine, discovered in 1702 by S. Babin and K. Suleev.

    Above, you yourself recommended it as AI. --Vladis13 (obs) 05:51, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    • Then write like this: according to some narrators, the Mistress of the Copper Mountain belonged to Polevsky and she was considered the Mistress of the Gumeshevsky mine. But how important are these details to write about them in the preamble? Slavic antiquities attribute it simply to mountain spirits, without reference to a specific mine or city. It seems to me that in the Urals she is what she performs in Dombas) 14:15, October 28, 2016 (UTC) This is a collective image, and the legends were different in different places. See the previous topic about Azovka and other names (names). --Vladimir Lobachev (obs) 12:09, October 29, 2016 (UTC) There he asked to bring the AI, where does the statement come from that the Mistress of the "copper mountain" (the name of this particular mine) is somewhere else. We are talking about a specific, clearly described character, and not a collective image of something similar "keepers of treasures and minerals" from all over the planet and all times. --Vladis13 (obs) 14:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

      About the fact that this is the mistress of not one mountain, but all Ural mountains:

      Mistress of Copper Mountain- mythical image mistresses of the Ural mountains. Depicted in folk tales, legends and legends as a very beautiful young woman, with a scythe and ribbons of thin tinkling copper, in a dress of "silk malachite". He always lives surrounded by lizards - green, blue, golden, shiny. Such a rare person saw the Mistress and fell under her spell. It allows a good master to open or find precious stones and gold, but if a person did not fulfill her conditions, then grief awaited him - luck disappeared, skill disappeared, and he himself could be dead. The mistress of the copper mountain in the Urals symbolizes the relationship between man and mountain riches, warns against greed, encourages kindness, modesty, loyalty to the word and skill, i.e. Christian virtues.

Literary or Mythological character?[ edit code ]

Now in the article there is a card "Literary character". However, according to many sources, Bazhov did not come up with the Mistress of the Copper Mountain himself, but only processed and popularized the character of the folk legends of the Ural workers.

A special cycle is made up of tales united by the images of common heroes - the Mistress of the Copper Mountain, the master Danila and his beloved. In them, Bazhov combined the Ural toponymic legends, bylichki and stories written down by him from old workers. As a result, a unique cycle of tales about fidelity and love, the true price and purpose of talent has developed.

)) , which is certainly not adequate to the character. - The character is not a goddess, and not Slavic. The Urals - there are actually indigenous Finno-Ugric peoples and the Ural race (Mansi, Yakuts, etc.), + Tatars, + Cossacks, among which there are many Caucasians, including directly the Caucasian Cossacks and Turks. By the way, for the same reason, a single extremely superficial mention in the Slavic Antiquities encyclopedia is only an indirect AI. For bylichki and tales about the Mistress of the Mednaya Gora mine are not "Slavic", and even more so "antiquities". Remember when Bazhov wrote, and when the Russian-speaking colonial miners came there and founded the mine. --Vladis13() 20:37 November 11, 2016 (UTC)

The Malachite Cave was mentioned at the forum, and I again remembered my beloved Mistress of the Copper Mountain, an image that has come down to us thanks to the work of Bazhov. And not without reason, you see, I remembered: having arrived outside the city, I found in my airsoft boot - a lizard, the Mistress's Messenger :) So, she does not forget me either :)

By the way, does anyone know the name of the Mistress? Well, that is, of course, people in the Urals call her Mistress, this is understandable, but does she have a name? There is one name that the mountain bears in the Southern Urals - Iremel. And - there is something very elvish in this name: when I think about it - I see her green eyes and black braids. I've been looking for information on this and here's what I found:

There is in the South in the Urals
Mount Big Iremel
She is taller
Surrounding lands

There is a golden mistress
At the foot stands
Wayfarers blessing
She keeps order.

"Iremel" meant "desire" in the Turkic language.
Mount Iremel among the Bashkirs was considered a saint on its top by the end of the 19th century. barely a dozen people got up. Climbing it was forbidden by unwritten laws. Iremel appears directly or indirectly in many legends of the Bashkir people. According to legend, countless treasures are hidden in the bowels of the mountain. Iremel is called one of the exit points of positive energy, there are legends about sacrifices on this mountain, carried out to “block” communication with space. Ufologists assure that exactly at the foot of Iremel is one of the most anomalous places located on the territory of Russia. UFO sees every second. Water in the rivers originating from Iremel is considered sacred, it gives energy and strength to a person, and glows at a certain hour at night. According to some legends, the mountain can grant wishes. When climbing Iremel, it is recommended to take a gift to the spirit of the mountain, and it is advised not to stay overnight at the top.

The path to the top of the "holy mountain" is not open to everyone. If a person goes to Iremel with a pure soul, then the mountain accepts him with joy, if his thoughts are black, he builds all sorts of intrigues on the way, as if not letting him reach the goal.

Yes, it is very similar to her name. And given that the Mistress lives in the mountain and knows all the minerals well, and can help the traveler, it seems to me that she is close to the Noldor. And - how would her name sound in Noldor? And it's very simple - Irime. And after all, according to sources, King Finwe had a daughter with that name.
"In addition to the son Feanaro, born of Miriel Serinde, which has already been mentioned above, Finwe also had two sons and two daughters born from marriage with Indis, the sister of Yngve.
Irime:"Beautiful" irima. "mother's name" Lalvende, or Lalven ("the laughing maiden"); "she went into exile with her brother Fingolfin, who was dearer to her than all of her kindred." In Sindarin, her name does not change, as it corresponds to the language in spirit.

Mistress of the Copper Mountain: Character Story

Folklore character, mistress of the Ural Mountains from mining legends. The spirit of the mountains, the keeper of valuable minerals. Takes on various forms. In anthropomorphic form, she appears as a beautiful short girl with green eyes and a black plait intertwined with copper ribbons that tinkle thinly. The Mistress is wearing a stone malachite dress, which from the side looks like silk, casts with diamonds and copper. The rich appearance of the Mistress symbolizes the beauty of her possessions - mines with precious stones and metals.

The mistress of the Copper Mountain can also look infernal - like evil spirits with the head of a woman and the body of a green lizard. Able to appear in the form of a disembodied spirit. In this case, it manifests itself only in a voice that is sonorous, but often unintelligible, speaks with chuckles, and has fun.

The mistress of the Copper Mountain patronizes miners, simple and courageous hard workers, and is usually hostile to the "administration". The hostess turns Severyan's clerk into a "waste breed", and the heroine helps those who are in search.

The owner of the wealth hidden in the bowels of the earth disposes of them at her own discretion. Any development is possible only with her consent, the Mistress can "take away" valuable minerals and not allow them to be mined. The mistress of the Copper Mountain is subject to lizards and a brown cat with fiery ears, which roams under the surface of the earth. The hostess keeps the secrets of stone processing skills.

History of creation

The writer and folklorist of the first half of the 20th century literary processed the Ural working folklore and wrote a number of tales, which he published in the collection "Malachite Box". Among other characters there is also the Mistress of the Copper Mountain.


In the 1930s, the study of working folklore was set as a task after a series of discussions that took place in Leningrad and Moscow. It was decided to publish a collection that would include pre-revolutionary Ural folklore. In December 1935, the collection was supposed to be published, but the first editor could not find the very "working folklore". The new editor of the collection got in touch with Pavel Bazhov - and things went well. Later, Bazhov himself became the editor of this collection and wrote three tales for him, among which was "The Mistress of the Copper Mountain."

The main idea of ​​the tale: the beauty of nature inspires a person and pushes him to creative search.

Legends of the Ural miners

Bazhov heard a lot of mining legends in his childhood, which passed in the city of Sysert. There, the writer's father worked at a metallurgical plant. Later, my father transferred to a copper smelter in Polevskoy. Pavel Bazhov met an old miner there, in whose retelling he recognized folklore legends. This miner, who worked as a watchman in a wood warehouse and retold miners' legends to children, became the prototype of Bazhov's grandfather Slyshko's character.


The prototype of the Copper Mountain was the Gumeshevsky copper mine, where malachite and copper ore were mined. The image of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain is strongly associated with the local folklore of the city of Polevskaya, where she appears as the spirit of the place, the "mistress" of the Gumeshevsky mine.

There is a similar folklore image associated with Mount Azov, located 10 kilometers from the mine. This is the girl-Azovka, the spirit of the mountain, the keeper of the treasure hidden in the cave by robbers or "old people". Azovka was also associated with a gold mine, which was located in the lower reaches of the mountain.


Both folklore characters were created in the same environment and could influence the formation of each other's images.

Screen versions of the image

In 1946, the fairy tale film " Stone Flower" directed by Alexander Ptushko, a film adaptation of two fairy tales by Pavel Bazhov at once - "Mining Master" and "Stone Flower". The actress played the role of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain, and the actor played the role of Danila the Master.

The mistress of the Copper Mountain lures master Danila into her own possessions, who has been trained to skillfully process stone since childhood, but strives for even greater skill. Danila is dissatisfied with his own creativity, although those around him invariably admire his work.


Danila comes to the underworld of the Mistress to create a stone flower there, which cannot be distinguished from a living one. The mistress of the Copper Mountain expects to win Danila's heart with the incalculable riches of the mountain bowels, her own beauty and creative possibilities that open up to the master in her possessions. But it doesn't work. Danila does not forget the world of people, and the Mistress has to let him go back. Upstairs, the master is already looking for his beloved - Katenka. Having solved the mystery of the stone, Danila returns to her.

In the 70s of the twentieth century, a series of puppet cartoons based on Bazhov's tales was released, filmed by director Oleg Nikolaevsky at the Sverdlovsk film studio. The Mistress of the Copper Mountain is present in two of them. The first cartoon - "The Mistress of the Copper Mountain" - was released in 1975. And in 1977, the same plot was played again in another cartoon in the series - "Stone Flower". The mistress of the Copper Mountain is voiced by Tatyana Yushkova.


The scenario is the same: the skillful stone carver Danila cannot find peace and, in search of mastery, goes to the kingdom of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain, leaving his bride Katya in the “world of people”. In the bowels of the mountain, Danila perfects his skills, and the Mistress dreams of keeping the master with her and making him forget his past life.

In 1976, the film-fairy tale "Stepanova Memo" was released at the Lenfilm film studio. The script was based on several fairy tales by Bazhov. The role of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain is played by actress Larisa Chikurova. Film director - Konstantin Ershov.


The plot is as follows: Stepan, an expert in mining, falls in love with the Mistress of the Copper Mountain - she opened the “soul of stone” to him. Under the influence of love for this folklore lady, Stepan is transformed and eventually dies. Stepan has a daughter, Tanya, who inherited talent, stubbornness and a proud disposition from her father. As a child, the Mistress of the copper mountain comes to Tanya under the guise of a wanderer, stops at the house and teaches the girl to embroider with silk and beads. Having become an adult, the girl goes to St. Petersburg with a young master who wants to marry her. Tanya needs to see the Malachite Room created by Stepan.

In 1978, the Soyuzmultfilm studio released the cartoon The Mining Master based on the fairy tale The Stone Flower. Directed by Inessa Kovalevskaya.


In 2016, the Rech publishing house published a new edition of Bazhov's tales - the book "The Mistress of the Copper Mountain" with illustrations by the artist Vyacheslav Nazaruk.

Quotes

“Here she is, so what a Mistress of the Copper Mountain! To meet a bad person with her is grief, and for a good one there is little joy.

Myths, fairy tales, legends, epics, legends are the ancient memory of mankind. Armchair scientists are often skeptical about oral folk art. Yes, and for the most part we tend to consider our ancestors simpletons who came up with all sorts of nonsense. But, as practice shows, they, on the contrary, were very smart and realistic people: they believed only what they saw or could feel.

The son of a difficult worker

The future collector of Ural tales, Pavel Bazhov, was born in the factory town of Sysert, not far from Yekaterinburg, 135 years ago, in 1879. As it was written in Soviet times, his origin is the most correct - from the workers. But Pyotr Bazhov was not considered a simple proletarian. “The authorities greatly appreciated the mining master Pyotr Vasilyevich, despite the fact that he had a very difficult character. When it became unbearable to endure, he was sent to "ventilate" - on a long paid vacation. Then he went back to work. But this estate, where we are now, was built for him by a factory. She cost Bazhov only two salaries, ”says Lyubov Kritskikh, head of the house-museum of P. P. Bazhov in Sysert.


What stands here today - the "Bazhovs' house" - is just an outbuilding for guests. The main building has not survived to this day, but it was many times larger. The bathhouse has been preserved, as well as various sheds and outbuildings. Once a huge garden - now a neighbor's patrimony. The estate is located in the very center of the village, close to the cathedral - an elite place. And they buried Bazhov Sr. with special honors. “Usually, only the clergy lie right next to the church, but here the masters were respected, the case is simply unprecedented. And the tombstone, as you can see, is solid,” explains Andrey Gorkov, a local historian.

Pavel Bazhov lived in Sysert until the age of eleven, then his family moved to Polevskoy. But it was in his homeland that he first heard tales - from his paternal grandmother, Avdotya Petrovna Bazhova.

Venus iron

The main character of local legends is the Mistress of the Copper Mountain. The mountain (365 meters above sea level) is still in place today, on its slopes there are slag heaps. different times and different type: there is both copper and iron. Moreover, numerous ancient metallurgical furnaces have been found, and very perfect ones - of the same type as in the mysterious Arkaim (Chelyabinsk region). As the inhabitants of Sysert say, after this find, archaeologists were very puzzled, such artifacts did not fit into any theories. Therefore, we decided not to resume work ...


So, the mountain is guarded by the Mistress. “Many represent her as a Russian woman, but this is not true. The hostess is very tall, with blue-black hair, dark eyes, strikingly beautiful, arrogant. The type of face is not at all Russian, but not Turkic either. Unknown. The older generation still remembers well the legends about her, the image of this woman lives among the people. And young people, unfortunately, do not believe in anything, ”complains Lyubov Kritskikh.

About the mysterious beauty in these places have been known since time immemorial. Her image was even present on the products of local factories. “Until 1759, when the factory owner Aleksey Turchaninov became the owner of the mines, iron was branded here with the image of a woman, she was then called “Venus”. But metallurgy officially arose in Sysert in 1680, as indicated in the charter, which was sent to St. Petersburg in 1732. And unofficially, we began to smelt iron even earlier. How can ordinary peasants know about some kind of ancient Venus? Undoubtedly, it was the image of the Mistress. By the way, when mines were developed under Turchaninov, workers constantly found tools deep underground - picks, shovels, various containers, they looked very old, ”says Andrey Gorkov.

Local metallurgy is a completely incomprehensible thing. Especially in terms of economics and logistics. The Sysert River flows to the east, flows into the Tobol, there are no water transport arteries to the west at all. In the post-Petrine era, roads were laid towards the European part of Russia, before they were completely absent. But iron was smelted for some reason, and in large quantities. Although, according to official history, Siberia had not yet been mastered, and there was no local consumer. Mystery.

However, science does not stand still. True, not academic, but alternative. “According to Marco Polo and Arab authors, there were at least two hundred cities and villages near the capital of Siberia, Kambalyk, which were connected by paved roads. ... Supporters of the "unhistorical land" all this seems like some kind of nonsense. However, the very first attempts in 1999 to use aerial photography brought amazing results: in the Zdvinsky district Novosibirsk region a large archaeological site was discovered. In 2000, it was excavated, and a city 400x650 meters in size, which existed in the 8th century BC, was discovered, ”writes in his book“ Ancient Rus' and Veliky Turan, Professor of the International Slavic Academy Oleg Gusev.

Perhaps, in ancient times, Siberia was quite densely populated by the Slavs, and the Urals were its “forge”, then the cold snap drove people to warmer climes. This theory has enough supporters today. After all, it also explains the mystery of the "country of cities" in the south Chelyabinsk region(Arkaim, Bersuat, Kuysak, Chekatai - only a few hundred ancient settlements).

Be that as it may, the Mistress has not been seen in Sysert for about fifty years. But that doesn't mean she's gone. The mountain maiden guards her patrimony. Here is an example. Today Sysert - popular resort of regional significance, people go to "ponds" (huge artificial lakes), many settle here - real estate prices will soon reach the level of Rublyovka. A couple of excellent hotels have been built for vacationers, some entrepreneurs have decided to do business on Copper Mountain. They put a lift there - they did it ski slope. And they burned out. Wishing to ride, in a strange way, was not found. “Geologists have long avoided the mountain. By the way, another name for it is Besenovka. Well, you understand ... ”- explains Lyubov Kritskikh.

Avdotya Bazhova told her grandson what she knew - only about local miracles. Which is enough to this day. About others, for example, about the Great Poloz, he learned later. Where this creature is found.

Fairy nugget

Polevskoy is also a factory town, today the main enterprise here is the Seversky Pipe Plant. They also began to engage in metal here in the middle of the 18th century - officially. Unofficially - much earlier. On Dumnaya Hill, which is located in the central part of the city, archaeologists have discovered eight large smelting furnaces, they date back to the first millennium BC. In the same place, they dug out a "fortification" surrounded by a powerful rampart. Its remains are still visible today.


Pavel Bazhov used to visit Polevskoy - he studied in Yekaterinburg, at a religious school. Then he graduated from the seminary in Perm, but in the end he became not a priest, but a school teacher. During the holidays, the young man and his friends liked to run to the Duma Hill, when Vasily Khmelenin, aka "Grandfather Slyshko", was on duty in the gatehouse. The old man knew many tales. Precisely tales - tales about the past. And he liked to repeat - these are not fairy tales, but a true story. His "lectures" prompted Bazhov to collect and systematize folklore. After all, he quickly became convinced that everything Khmelenin said was true.

Let us take the tale "Silver Hoof", in which gems appeared under the feet of a magical goat. There is such a thing: they were found, and exactly where the ancient legend indicated. “Chrysolites and demantoids were found in the river. And the tale, most likely, appeared for a very simple reason: an elk or a deer ran along the rivulet, broke the druze with its hoof, sparkling pebbles fell out, some hunter noticed this. Bazhov just poeticized a little ancient history", says the manager Historical Museum of the city of Polevsky Natalya Gurkina.


Similarly with gold: about where exactly to look for it, information was passed down from generation to generation. Sometimes in the form of tales, but the accuracy did not suffer from this. And people used it. Here good example: in 1935 (the "Malachite Box" was still being created) the artel of prospectors was looking for gold near Polevskoy. The season didn't work out. But one of the fishermen remembered - his grandfather said that you need to look at the Diagon Ford. At first they did not believe him - they were already digging there. Nevertheless, they relocated in the indicated direction. And on the same day they found a nugget weighing 13.787 kilograms. Artels instantly became rich people, then the state paid very well for gold (up to 60% of precious metals under Stalin were mined by prospectors and private artels, in the 56th all such non-state business in the USSR was liquidated by Khrushchev). And they not only paid, but also rewarded: all the men were given an excellent gramophone, and the only female prospector was given a Singer sewing machine.

A cast of a huge nugget lies in the museum. And on the next showcase - pebbles, which were “opened” by some kind of “goat” with their hooves. All this is a clear confirmation of the veracity of Bazhov's tales. And there are many of those.

The mountain reveals the secret

In 1940, a group of schoolchildren went to the Azov Mountain (the etymology of the name is unknown, it has nothing to do with the sea). After reading the recently published book of their fellow countryman, the children decided to find a treasure - the same one from the tale "Dear Name". And surprisingly, they found it!

“The kids were lucky, the day before there was a storm, many trees were knocked down, and in one of the outcrops they found copper figurines of half-humans, half-birds, about four dozen in number. Several pieces are now kept in our museum, most of them are in Yekaterinburg,” says Natalia Gurkina.

Naturally, scientists were called. But, as the inhabitants of Polevskoye recall, archaeologists were not happy with the artifacts. The place of the treasure was not even properly explored (today it is unknown). They quickly came up with an explanation: these are the cult idols of the ancient Mansi and Bashkirs, who believed that people descended from birds. One subtlety: both peoples lacked even the rudiments of metallurgy...

Most of all, the figurines look like ordinary jewelry; on the back of each there is a ring to fasten it somewhere. For example, for clothes. Perhaps they are really cult - it is impossible to carry such a weight every day. Meanwhile, the tale tells that “old people”, who “copper is native, that was mined a little”, do not belong to the mentioned peoples (they were all called Tatars then). “They were not Russians and not Tatars, but what faith-custom and how they were nicknamed, no one knows about that,” wrote Pavel Bazhov. However, museum workers, lecturers and guides are required to adhere to official version about the "winged" Mansi metallurgists.

Azov-mountain - beautiful place. A heap of rocks, birches and pines somehow manage to sprout between them, an amazing “stone river” (scree), cliffs. The view from the top is simply magical. The main regional attraction. Plus a place of pilgrimage for seekers of the unknown and other esotericists. People are, in general, harmless. True, having taken too much, sometimes they begin to scream painfully piercingly. According to legend, you need to call out loud the “dear name” (female), then the mountain will open and reveal its secrets to the world. “By the way, the treasure hidden in the Azov Mountain is not gold at all. Bazhov doesn’t write about treasures, it’s some kind of ancient knowledge,” Natalya Gurkina believes.

On the slopes, among the rocks, there are several places that can be identified with the entrances to the caves. Someone diligently blocked them with huge, precisely fitted boulders of stone - two or three meters deep into the mountain and that's it, a dead end. The truth is somewhere near.

Ural anaconda

Bazhov himself did not believe in the Great Poloz. Until I saw it with my own eyes. “It happened in 1947, near Degtyarsk. Bazhov came to locality on business - since 1946 he was a deputy of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, met with his constituents. And on the way back across the road along which he was driving a snake crawled. Pavel Petrovich stopped, got out, waited for him to clear the way. After this incident, the writer’s doubts disappeared,” says Natalia Gurkina.

The snake lives in remote places. But the residents of the Polevskiy district know exactly where. Moreover, there are already two types of asps - black and brown, with a geometric pattern on the skin. Hunters claim that they know the habitats of snakes, even entire snake families, they also studied the habits of these reptiles.

The snake is really great, that is, big. “The average length of an individual is 3–3.5 meters, 20–25 cm thick, and 5–6 meters are found, but extremely rarely. They feed on rodents, birds, and sometimes hares. The snake stuns the victim with a blow to the head, then swallows it. It is non-venomous and does not attack people. In autumn, before hibernation, snakes, like other snakes, bask in the sun,” explains local historian and hunter Anatoly Semiletov. In the view of the inhabitants of Polevskoy and its environs, great snakes are the same ordinary animals as moose or bears. They are used to it. Although where they are found, they still prefer not to meddle, you never know what. A huge snake - somehow scary ...

There are many stories about snakes, including funny ones. “Once, an old Muslim woman, from the Bashkirs, grazed goats and at the same time walked her naughty granddaughter. And the one, when the grandmother performed namaz, tickled her heels with a twig. In general, the old woman got tired of this, she broke off a long twig and put it next to the prayer rug. And when she felt - someone touched her legs, without looking she whipped back. Immediately, something pushed her hard, she even fell, turned around - and a snake was crawling nearby, she slapped him. Healthy. He did not touch the old woman, ”says Anatoly Semiletov.

Recently a student of the sports section led by Semiletov saw a snake. Asp, suddenly appearing from tall grass, greatly frightened young man. Too damn healthy. But the Ural anaconda - as it is called here - rarely leaves its permanent habitat. True, at one time, about half a century ago, a snake (with a patterned skin) lived on an island not far from the city. Everyone knew this and did not bother him.

Zoologists do not believe in the Ural anaconda. Nevertheless, Anatoly Semiletov and other enthusiasts carefully document all the information on giant snakes - where they saw how much, approximate size, adults or juveniles. Suddenly, one day this knowledge will come in handy?

From the unreleased

Memorial house-museum of P.P. Bazhov in Yekaterinburg (a branch of the United Museum of Ural Writers) - here the writer spent last years life. An almost obligatory point of a typical excursion to the sights of the city. Here is the table at which the "Malachite Box" was written, here is its first "author's" copy, and this is a sheet of manuscript of tales. Standard tourist narrative.

But everything is a little different. “In fact, Bazhov did not work at this beautiful table - he appeared much later, but behind that unpretentious one that stands in the corner. And behind the old pre-revolutionary bureau, it is now in the corridor, ”explains Georgy Grigoriev, head of the museum.

Among the personal belongings of the writer on display is a modest notebook. As a rule, visitors do not pay attention to it. And it turns out that there are a great many such notebooks - this is the legacy of the writer, which still remains unexplored. As you know, Bazhov began to work on books quite late. That's why most he simply did not have time to process the tales, myths, legends and traditions he collected.


What else mystery stories hidden in those notebooks? “The funds of the United Museum of Writers of the Urals contain all the notebooks of the writer, where he wrote down the stories of his fellow countrymen. There are a lot of them, whole stacks. But, unfortunately, no one deals with them,” explains Georgy Grigoriev. Indeed, for future researchers, this is just an unplowed field.

No one goes home to Danila the master either. The village of Koltashi is between Rezh and Nevyansk. Danila Zverev (1858–1938), a major specialist in the extraction and processing of Ural gems, lived on Zelenaya Street. My first attempt to "take the language" from the locals fails. The young man had not heard of any Zverev. But the ancient old man is aware of the affairs of the past days. “There was a house here. Good, intelligible - stone. They just pulled it apart brick by brick immediately after the war, when there were not enough building materials. Danila Zverev did not have any heirs, now there is someone's garden, like summer residents, they don't even know who lived here. Soon everyone will forget that we have the homeland of Danila the master, ”the grandfather sighed and trudged to the village store.

The stone girl, or the mistress of the Copper Mountain, is a character of the Ural legends, thanks to the tales of Bazhov, she gained great fame. The hostess of the Copper Mountain in the works of Bazhov appears in the form beautiful girl in a malachite dress. Bazhov's tales are based on Ural folklore and are of interest to readers of all ages. The protagonist of The Mistress of the Copper Mountain is Stepan, a simple worker who met the mistress of the Copper Mountain herself, but this meeting did not bring him happiness.

Characteristics of the heroes of "The Mistress of the Copper Mountain"

Main characters

Minor characters

Mistress of Copper Mountain

The mistress of underground riches, is in the form of a girl, then turns into a lizard. Very rarely shown to people. Strong and domineering, she herself controls those to whom to show the underground deposits of natural resources, and to whom not. He does not like humiliating simple working bosses, mainly helps poor and kind people. She liked Stepan, his honesty and straightforwardness, she helps him in everything, gave gifts to Nastya. Her love did not bring happiness to Stepan, and he died in the mine.

clerk

In "The Mistress of the Copper Mountain" there is a hero who, for his own benefit, is capable of all sorts of meanness. Cowardly, greedy and envious. He tries only for his own sake, in order to receive gratitude from his superiors. Ruthlessly mocks workers, serfs. He ordered Stepan to be flogged, chained in grief, and only after that he believed Stepan's story about the mistress of the Copper Mountain, after which he ordered the workers to stop working at Krasnogorka, afraid of her punishment.

Nastasya

The bride, and after the wife of Stepan. The hostess of the Copper Mountain gave her a box with various women's jewelry. She knows nothing about emerald stones, Stepan never told her about them.

It was a brief description of heroes of the Mistress of the Copper Mountain, which can be used in a literature lesson.